Redefining Retirement: Embracing Midlife Transitions Through Nutrition and Community Support on Real Food Stories

Are you ready to redefine your retirement and embrace a vibrant future? In this enlightening episode of Real Food Stories, host Heather Carey sits down with Camille Kamil Walsanovich, a certified master coach and the visionary founder of My Aspirement. Together, they tackle the unique challenges women face as they transition into their 50s and beyond, especially when it comes to navigating retirement and personal aspirations. Camille shares her inspiring journey from a fulfilling 35-year career at Disney to creating a powerful platform that empowers women to rediscover their potential and reimagine their futures.

The conversation dives deep into the heart of self-discovery, the significance of prioritizing health, and the essential role of community support. Camille highlights that many women find themselves feeling overwhelmed and struggling with their identity during these pivotal life changes—whether due to career shifts, evolving family dynamics, or health concerns. This episode encourages listeners to take small, actionable steps toward their goals and invites them to explore new possibilities without fear of failure.

As a culinary nutritionist, Heather brings her expertise to the table, weaving in nutrition advice and healthy eating tips that resonate with women navigating the complexities of midlife. The discussion touches on vital topics such as menopause health, midlife body positivity, and the importance of nourishing your body through mindful eating practices. Camille’s insights on empowering women to embrace their unique personal food journeys are not just inspiring but also practical, offering listeners a roadmap to finding joy and purpose in their next stages of life.

Listeners will gain valuable perspectives on weight loss myths, food beliefs and culture, and the impact of hormonal changes on health and well-being. With an emphasis on community and support, this episode serves as a reminder that you are not alone in your journey. It’s about embracing vulnerability, fostering emotional resilience, and celebrating the beautiful complexities of being a woman in midlife.

Join us for this empowering conversation that encourages you to take charge of your health, embrace healthy lifestyle choices, and redefine what retirement means to you. Discover how to cultivate a healthy cooking routine, explore sustainable eating, and unlock the secrets to cooking for wellness. Tune in to find clarity, purpose, and joy as you embark on your personal nutrition journey. Together, let’s step into a future filled with possibility, empowerment, and delicious real food stories!

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Transcript:

Speaker #0
Well, hello, everybody, and welcome back. And if you are just tuning in with me for the very first time, it’s so nice to meet you. And I’m really glad you’re here with me today. I am your host, Heather Carey, nutritionist, chef, mom, and a woman who has been around the block with food. I want to open up about real food in relation to health, weight, and our bodies so you can make peace with what you eat. Hey everybody and welcome back to the Real Food Stories podcast. I know that as time goes on, I am leaning into a season of my life that is very future focused. What my purpose is and how do I go about realizing that? How do I want to live a healthy life? Is it just what happens when we start to get older? I think so because I know I’m not alone in this. I have friends and clients who are feeling exactly the same way as I am. So today… We’re going to dive into a topic that so many of us think about, but often avoid until it’s staring us in the face. And that is, what does the next chapter of our lives really look like? Whether you’re dreaming of a slower pace or planning a big adventure or just craving more clarity and control over your future, I think this episode is going to be for you. Because Camille Kamil Walsanovich is someone who helps people, especially women, reimagine what retirement and what’s next can truly mean for you, not just in terms of finances, but in purpose, possibility, and how we want to live. So before we get into all the details, let me tell you a little bit more about Kamil. After a successful and magical 35-year career with Disney, Kamil is now dedicated to her passion project, My Aspirement. which is a global movement reimagining retirement for women. Camille is a certified master coach with a master’s in human resources from Rollins College, complemented by a bachelor’s in psychology from the University of Central Florida. And during her time at Disney, Camille excelled in various operations and human resource leadership roles and played a pivotal role in establishing the Women’s Inclusion Network, The first women’s employee resource. group at Walt Disney World. Her extensive experience in executive coaching coupled with her transformative work at Disney has made her a catalyst for unlocking potential in individuals, teams, and organizations. Camille is energized by the infinite possibilities available to women pursuing their aspirations, and her vision is simple yet powerful. Every woman deserves to be believe in and share her best self. with the world in ways that are uniquely hers. I love that. So hello, Camille. How are you today?

Speaker #1
Great. Hi, Heather.

Speaker #0
So let’s just jump in and talk about a little bit about your journey. I want to hear a little bit about your magical 35-year career and then what made you decide to pivot and transition to create your own space, My Aspirement, to help other women?

Speaker #1
Great, thanks. Yeah, I started at Disney on a college internship and really, you know, time of growth at Disney. So I got promoted pretty quickly through the ranks in operations and had a chance to play many different roles. I grew up in a military family, so that was ideal because I love doing different things. One of them including Open Disneyland Paris. So I was there for six months or so in Paris. And after some time in operations, I was put on a special project. around managing labor, which is a huge big deal at Walt Disney World, which would also kind of move me into the HR. So I had a chance to support many parts of the business in human resources, including Disney advertising out of New York and all the businesses they have across the country. So really just a lot of great opportunities. I had a really a great career. I loved everything about working for Disney. But like anything else corporate, it’s a lot and it’s a lot to be doing it. while you’re raising a family and everything else. So I always just envisioned a time in my life when I knew I might have an opportunity to do something different. And when I went looking for it at about the age 50, I knew my timeline. I wasn’t necessarily sharing that with anybody else, but I went looking for something in that space to help me make the transition and I couldn’t find it. So my aspirant was really born out of something that I was looking for and couldn’t find and the research that showed there wasn’t anything out there really compelling. for women.

Speaker #0
So that’s interesting. So you had a really sounds like eventful and great career. You’re ready to move on and do something next. You’re kind of having that calling. And you were feeling a little lost. I think like so many of us. And so good for you then for creating something to help other women. Because we’re all feeling. I mean, I know that I am definitely like, what is my purpose in life? And what’s like my next, what are my next steps? So you then. created a company called My Aspirement. And tell me how then you work with women to help them.

Speaker #1
Some of the work and how it kind of got started, I’d been doing some work with a futurist at Disney. We were doing long-term strategic planning with our clients. But a lot of those same concepts can be used to help you plan longer term for your own personal life. So I knew that I could use some of those concepts. Meanwhile, I kind of grew up as a little bit of a neuroscience nerd, kind of following some of those concepts around gratitude and really making sure that you had kind of an eye for what your future held, etc. And I knew if I could put those things together and make it simple for women that I could create something that they might actually enjoy and perhaps prioritize in their life when they’re likely not prioritizing themselves as much. And I wanted to organize the concepts in a way that helped them kind of rediscover themselves a little bit, then explore these facets of their life, and then help them kind of create an action plan or path or something around it. Because I think sometimes women are just overwhelmed. And you’re right, purpose is such a huge part of what we all need. And again, purpose is often changing at this stage of life. So I wanted to give women, you know, a way to pursue that, maybe, you know, plan for. what would be next.

Speaker #0
So what are some of the common patterns or struggles that you see in women who come to you, especially those that like this transition? So you’re in your 50s, you know, like just this time of we’re so in between so many things, right? Like we may be transitioning out of our careers. We’re just wanting something maybe not as stressful. We’ve got aging parents. We’re thinking about health issues are cropping up. We’re in menopause. We’re like, all the things are happening. We’re not prepared for it.

Speaker #1
It’s the perfect storm, right? It’s sort of the perfect storm. And so one of the things that we have to do that I wasn’t necessarily over-focused on in the beginning when I was creating it is helping women to find more about themselves. Nobody wants to hear it, but they got to do a lot of self, got to do some self-work. Not in like a deeply, I’m not a therapist certified kind of way, but from a coaching perspective. standpoint, helping people to kind of understand more about what they, what their motivations are, what they really love, what they’re kind of far away from, and spend some time, you know, believing and getting to know your worthiness, again, things like that, what you really do love, not for anybody else, but for yourself. So there is sort of this big notion around that, finding that there’s also a big notion around making sure you understand as you look forward. Where are the most maybe uncertainty and or the points at which you have areas that are of most interest that you start peeling this stuff back? There’s probably one or two or three areas of your life that you want to focus on more. And that kind of tends to overwhelm into just a little bit more order so that women can kind of build that path for themselves. But you’re right. Part of it is that they’re overwhelmed. They’re likely not prioritizing themselves. And… Just like you mentioned from a health perspective, your health’s not necessarily going to wait, right? And it’s probably just about in these ages that we’re starting to realize that. It’s hard to put ourselves on the back burner much longer with any length of time for us to be super healthy into the future.

Speaker #0
Yeah, the time is now, I think. I think that it’s like kind of the wake-up call decade, you know, to… Thank you. get it together, like use it or lose it right now. But let me just, back to like the struggles, I mean, like these patterns or struggles. So overwhelm, I could totally see that. I admit, I definitely feel overwhelmed sometimes with like, I mean, it just seems like there’s a lot of unknown. Coming up with, you know, my mother who’s aging and I mean, just with everything, you know, just it just feels very unknown. And that feels overwhelming. What other things come up? I mean, that that there’s just too many things to think about or to hone in.

Speaker #1
Yeah, there’s too many things. So some of the work we do is to help women to kind of explore all these different facets when it comes to your relationships, your health. Money is not. not off the table it’s there but at the same time like what is the concept of enough what are the things that are a part of your legacy how do you want to deal with your stuff stuff physical stuff emotional whatever so some it’s just sort of pulling apart this tight knot that just feels like a lot kind of loosening it up a little bit and helping women to kind of see there’s some things that maybe need a little bit more attention than others and then you can put that in order so that’s part of it and then prioritizing it in a way that allow them to like what do women prioritize themselves when do they do maybe when they get together with their girlfriends so a lot of it was like how can i put them where they how can we meet them where they are where they want to be anyway um and again when women get together they can be pretty powerful together they enjoy being together so i wanted to make sure there was some community in it too if they want that you know we do some coaching one-on-one if they want that it was about making some of what the content is pretty flexible because I want to make sure that whatever the overwhelm is or whatever their struggle is, it doesn’t become an excuse for not kind of doing what they need to do in honor of themselves.

Speaker #0
I think community is so important. I definitely wholeheartedly believe that, especially around this age. I think we can start to feel really isolated and alone in this. And maybe it looks like everyone else has their act together except for us. you just dealing with all the feelings can feel very lonely. So if you know that other people are.

Speaker #1
Right. Like even, even our relationships are changing, you know, because maybe our primary relationship, the same our relationships with our kids, because the way they’re aging, our relationship with their parents are changing. And just helping to connect women with each other and maybe even with some resources that they don’t have time to go look for that would be interesting if they were just provided with it to explore that. the topics a little bit more is what our goal is.

Speaker #0
Health and wellness is definitely something that I am personally interested in and I focus on. So I want to just ask about that a little bit. Is that something that you see come up with women who are like kind of reimagining their future and their purpose is to focus on health and wellness? Because I know that there are some people, I’ve got some clients, I mean, they can be very resistant. because what was working for them back in their 30s is not really working for them now, but they don’t want to like make a lot of change. So how do you work with people who are like resistant to changing?

Speaker #1
Some of it is to envision their future in different ways. So one of the exercises we do is to imagine their future in a couple of different ways. If you stay on this track, that you are in the way you eat, the way you sleep, whatever, what does your future look like? 10 years from now, 20 years from now, whatever. And then have them create a couple other alternative futures. What would happen if you change your diet? What would happen if you change the way you exercise, whatever? What would that future begin to look like? And what are you living for? A lot of people say, well, I would want to be able to lift my grandkids. Like, what would you want that to look like? Really look like so they could kind of say, okay, well, if you want to be able to lift your kids, your grandkids at that age, what would you have to do 20 years from now? What do you have to do 10 years from now? What would you have to do five and work backwards? So the foresight concept called backcasting to help making it a little bit doable today. So even breaking it down to something simple as researching the gym that you’re going to pursue. This week, I’m going to try one new recipe because I know I can trade out something and create what I call micro actions to help women get the confidence from having honored themselves by keeping a commitment to themselves without being overwhelming. That’s just one way.

Speaker #0
Yeah, well, I think thinking ahead into your future, I love that. I mean, I think, you know, thinking 10 years in, 20 years in, what does your future look like if you do nothing?

Speaker #1
Right.

Speaker #0
You know, you know, you’ve got some like health stuff happening and you do nothing about it. What does that look like? I think that’s I think that’s a really powerful exercise to do. I mean, I feel like I’ve even done that for myself in different ways. And, yeah, knowing that, like, I don’t want to be. 75 years old and like dealing with whatever health issue you know would come up that I did that I just chose to ignore right and so I think that can be really powerful but I also think you mentioned like you know doing like micro steps small steps right and and to help women get unstuck kind of, or just, you know, rather than saying like, you better get your act together because by the time you’re 75, you’re going to be a mess if you don’t, right. I mean, that’s, that’s not effective either. But if you just do these micro steps, like try a new recipe, you know, research the gym, what do you love to do, you know, for exercise, you know, that those kinds of things, right.

Speaker #1
What I find with women, particularly when it of health is like. One of the things that will stop us in our tracks is if we or someone else we know gets medical news that has to be immediately dealt with, right? Like, I just feel like anytime you’ve gotten that, call your doctor or your test results or whatever, I feel like we all just wait for that instead of just thinking, what if it wasn’t waiting for that? What if we could just imagine a world where that will never happen? But I just feel like we just need other things that literally stops in our tracks to. promote a different behavior set. And it’s hard. I get it. We got to, that’s why I think, I feel like community helps and accountability helps. And I don’t have all the answers. I’ve tried lots of things too. So yeah.

Speaker #0
Yeah. No, I think that, that, that people do kind of try to dodge the bullet, you know, until it like maybe gets them, they get the lab reports. That’s when I see a lot of clients too, is that they come to me with, they’ve got. high cholesterol or their a1c their diabetes markers are high and then they’re you know now they have to to do something but yeah if you could get get them before that even happens that would be really

Speaker #1
great too if they could imagine a world where that was you know their best life was still there and they could actually do something about it i feel like even when they get results like that a lot of times in the the treatment becomes your right medical it becomes medicinal food is but food is medicine right so we can help one see that sooner a lot of it is about peeling that back all the way to the behaviors or how did they grow up what did food really mean in their families how does it play out how does it change now that you’re not cooking for a family etc it’s just stopping to explore some of those things um and

Speaker #0
giving women permission to consider what would be different yeah so i mean i guess then then that goes into like this mindset, right? I mean, there’s like this. You can look at things like a couple of ways. So, I mean, what role do you think mindset plays in planning your future? I mean,

Speaker #1
it’s so huge. It’s like the first thing. It really is the first thing. And so many women, I don’t want to say they don’t want to hear it, but we’ve got to start there. We’ve got to kind of do some work to really help them to think about things from a point of gratitude. We’ve got to help women think about how they are really. been when they’ve been successful changing something when they have it so we can kind of employ some of those same strategies into whatever else has to change coming up you know and really getting at helping them to explore what they really love would it be to your point what what movement might they enjoy what food do they recall enjoying like how many of us have like totally changed our diets because of whatever our kids like or whatever something else is happening in life. So. mindset’s huge. It’s got to come first and we do some work around it on purpose just because everyone’s going to kind of come at it from a place of curiosity and worthiness and what they deserve. I think that’s it. It’s huge. It’s hard though. Can you imagine how hard that is for women?

Speaker #0
Yeah, no, I can because, well, especially when, I mean, you just said like worthiness and I mean, You have to, I think, come with… sense of kindness and compassion too, especially when it comes to changing your physical body, everything. Otherwise you’re, you know, I’m just thinking about like women just being on and off diets their whole lives. I mean, diets are so punishing and, and we’re used to that, right? We’re used to like women, I think are very used to like just punishing themselves on diets or like berating themselves. And, and that never works in the long run, right? That’s like short, little short-term. fixes. So yeah, so I think the mindset shift is definitely the foundation for any change,

Speaker #1
right? Health, wellness. Food and nutrition and making healthy choices and how that really does help you and feel better. It’s not, it’s not hula, right? Like it’s science. But it’s really hard. And there’s women probably working through some resentment, I let myself go or you know how do they get to this place and whatever and so yeah the relationships with food and everything has to be explored a little bit before we continue to move forward and talk about healthspan versus lifespan. That’s another thing. We might all live long. Do we want to live long in what way?

Speaker #0
Exactly. Yeah.

Speaker #1
If we can give ourselves, I think, about it that way.

Speaker #0
Definitely. We want to, right. There’s no point in living long if you’re going to be really unhealthy and like sickly and everything. I mean, you want to feel good. So, yeah, so I think that there is. you know, there can be some kind of like resistance. And I think my next question is like, what if, what do you do with women who just feel really behind? Like, I’m already 55 years old and I’ve lost so much time on even, and I’m not just even talking about health or health and wellness, but all of it, you know, like financially, you know, they didn’t have the career maybe they wanted or, I mean, how do you start with women? I’m sure you’ve talked to some women who have regret over how they, you know, spent their lives or maybe they chose to be stay at home moms. And here they are in their 50s and they never got their career off their ground. And what are they doing now? You know that I’m sure you’ve got, you know, a variety of different women that you speak to on this. And so what how do you get women to just not feel like that regret?

Speaker #1
One place is to find a way to really instill a sense of grace in terms of where they are and what their history has led them to, right? Whatever choices that they made, you know, not make them bad ones. Everything happens and has happened in their life. So just kind of go back a little bit. Again, some of the work we do around change is to say, when were you resilient? Like, when have you done things to, you know, do some better things, whatever? Just anything we can do to kind of, like, instill this sense of you can. do these things and you can make some changes now so for the woman that you know regretting losing their career your career can start again like let’s put like what you want to do with your purpose and how you want to contribute at this stage is part of your actions and so that might be the path for the women who gave too much to her career and they’re so bitter about it if they want to spend time with the kids that becomes their action step um But again, really helping themselves to kind of give themselves some grace is a huge, it goes back to mindset a little bit. And it goes back to this whole thing around understanding your values and then understanding your value. Because if you get really clear on what your values are, like you might have made that choice to step out of your career because your value was your family. So you might regret not having a career, but you made a choice based on your values. So we can do the same thing today to do some of the work to kind of really identify what those values are. then they can really begin to give themselves kind of some credit for the value that they, you know, know your worth, you know, and the value they continue to bring to make that transition into what they could do with it as they look forward.

Speaker #0
Yeah, that’s a great point. I think that your values might change. I mean, from being like a young mother to now being an empty nester, I mean, your values might shift a lot and depending on the season of life you’re in.

Speaker #1
Right.

Speaker #0
Right. But I think that’s so important. to hone in on what is really important to you because that’s almost like a your guiding light right you know like your contract almost that you have with yourself with yourself but it gets really lost it gets really lost in your life though when you’re serving

Speaker #1
a corporate leader or something or when you’re leading a household you know full of kids and having to raise them or you know particularly you know single moms or whatever like it’s all hard So it’s sort of like you might be instilling your values or helping your kids to know what they should value, et cetera. But it is kind of like turning it in a little bit to get really clear so that you could use those to make really intentional choices about your time, about your energy, about your resources as you look ahead. Because ideally, we’re all going to live longer and healthier. And so what do we really want for not just the next few years, but could be potentially like, you know. third of a lifetime, whatever. And that’s, that can be daunting too. But if you can kind of break it down and see that as such opportunity, like there’s no telling what they might be able to do with it.

Speaker #0
Yeah. It’s like a, almost like a contract, right. That you have with yourself that like,

Speaker #1
yeah,

Speaker #0
I guess you don’t want to break.

Speaker #1
Right. When you talk about like little, taking little actions, the other thing we try to instill is just trying some things out, like, and not being afraid to fail at them because we also as women, we have this. perfectionist thing too, right? Like, because we have to be all things to all people and hold it together, whatever, like this stage of reliance is, listen, if you want to try pickleball, go find a place to try it, you know, let us know how it went. You know, it doesn’t have to be, you know, you’re going to go buy a brand new set of golf clubs and take lessons for the next six months. You might go to a clinic on a Saturday morning just to see, you know, those kinds of things. You say, don’t be afraid to suck at something new. It’s kind of a joke, but not really. And be seen doing it. Because right now, we don’t want anyone to see that we are not holding everything together. But we really won’t know unless we try some of these things. If any of these things kind of like light the light that’s maybe been a little dimmed in our soul because it’s been so long. Things like that. It’s what we encourage women to do.

Speaker #0
Yeah. Well, women, I think, notoriously are wrapped around this perfectionist mentality. At least in my world, I feel like there’s just a lot of perfectionism. I know for myself, I mean, it’s like you have to fight that all the time to not look perfect. And I think the fear, too, right? There’s a lot of fear that goes into just trying things. But I know when you do try things and you just push past your fear, you do feel really empowered, right? You feel a lot better about yourself. Because what’s the… what’s the alternative staying stuck where you are? I mean, like where you don’t really want to be, you know, something else is out there and you have to go out and try.

Speaker #1
Yeah. It just has to be, it just has to be this stage of exploration. It just has to be this adventure kind of mindset. And if we can, it just could be just about anything. But one of the stories I tell is, you know, a woman that always dreamed of, she always dreamed of owning a winery. She always thought in her future she would love to have a winery. When she really went through and did some of the work and visited one, she realized that it’s just really dirty. It’s really dirty. She’s like, I don’t know if I really love this. It’s a lot of dirt. But if we don’t try out things like that, she might now never choose to own a winery. But if she spent the next, you know, years dreaming of what this time would be in her life and she would already know that that’s not her thing, she could be moving on to the next thing. So that’s why sometimes just experimenting or taking small actions. It also just sort of like reignites, you know, a little bit more about who we who we really are.

Speaker #0
I think that’s a great example. I mean, you have to go and try and. not be afraid to fail or not be afraid to realize that this isn’t for me. I thought it was. I mean, it seemed like dreamy to own a winery. And then as I got in there, it was like, it’s dirty, it’s hard work. It’s a lot of physical labor, whatever it is. And I’m not into it.

Speaker #1
But if she really got to it, it’s like, what did she really love about that idea? She might have loved the community of having people for wine tastings, or she might really loved you know, something just about why, okay, what else, then what else is there, you know, what else could that be that’s not that. So, but that’s why it can be kind of this sense of adventure. And that’s why I love women in community, we can laugh about it, or we can tell each other stories, or we can like, encourage other ideas. That’s what, you know, we can be of service to each other.

Speaker #0
Absolutely. Yeah, exactly. You can share these stories and be vulnerable. not be afraid to talk about your fears and or your things that you’ve kind of messed up and I love that with the winery yeah it’s one thing to be on on this side drinking the wine and having going to the wine tasting and looking you know making that look all like romantic but then to own the winery is a definitely different different scenario so I just wanted to ask the topic of retirement I know just in my circle with friends and everything is definitely up I have a lot of friends who are getting laid off from their jobs now. And, you know, they’re like turning like in their 60s. And, you know, so the prospect of retiring is kind of up. But I think for my age group that that word retirement meant you just quit your job. You know, you stop working and then you go like sit on a chair in your house and you watch TV. And it just seems. I always just remember thinking like, oh, this feels like so bleak. But when is like a good time to start like really thinking about retirement? Is it 80 years old? Is it 50 years old? Is it like is it do we have to be like financially? comfortable? Is there some kind of a timeline that you see?

Speaker #1
You know, it’s funny. There’s not one way, obviously. But what I do encourage is like, I don’t know how you first started saving or thinking about retirement, but your model is probably built on something that you perceive from your past or your family, right? So what I’d love for women to do is to be thinking about it.

Speaker #0
you know, as they get employed and as they’re saving money or whatever, like whenever you start saving for retirement is when you should start planning for it. I know that sounds crazy, but if we could encourage that kind of save some time and energy along the way for everything that’s not financial too, that would be great. Now, I also know that’s a little unrealistic. If I was talking to a group of women my age, I’d probably be looking for a way to say, you know, and it’s not even an age because it’s probably more related to your life stage, but probably five to seven years before you might be thinking about it. is when you obviously should have yourself all taken care of financially, but start thinking about these things. And don’t wait until you get to your retirement party to have people ask you what you’re going to do with your time or whatever. So that would give you, because I tell people the story about college. College is like a four to five year time frame between when we’re growing into our next career for the next 30 years of our life. And we give ourselves those four years to explore. And be curious and try things out and meet fun people and all these times of life we want to go back to because it was such a great time. There’s no reason why this time in life shouldn’t be about that long to be getting ready for what is going to be a stage of life that likely is as long, if not longer than your first career. So people put that mindset a little bit around it. Like, and it was fun and interesting and like that, like sign me up. Yeah. Like I’d want to go to the football games and the tailgates again, you know, whatever. And that would be, but that’s why, that’s why if it gave them some years and not just months or weekends or a workshop here and there, you know, that would allow them the time to explore some of these things fuller, more full. There’s a ton of work to like free up your space, you know, get rid of stuff that you don’t need to be able to plan for maybe your next physical move. Who knows? I mean, that stuff just takes time, takes time to explore. So as much time, if it takes 30 some years to plan for it financially, there is that much kind of time and effort. But, you know, could we do it with a few years? Absolutely. That helps answer the question in a long way.

Speaker #1
Yeah, definitely. I think my next question was going to be, what’s one piece of advice that you wish every woman like 40 and above in their 50s would hear about planning their future? But it sounds like I think you answered it. that we give ourselves the time to really start thinking about it. Don’t get yourself caught off guard. All of a sudden you’re 60 and you’re like, what am I doing? Just give yourself some time to plan and dream.

Speaker #0
Yeah, to absolutely get back in touch with those dreams. And find another woman you want to go through with. I mean, we all have girlfriends that we make time for occasionally, right? You know, things like that. Make sure that you’ve got… a family or a partner and spouse that you talk about it, you’ll know that this is going to be something you’re going to build into your, you know, the next few years, because it’s important to make sure that those, you know, the years in the future are, are planned well, and are something to look forward to instead of something with such dread or fear, if that helps.

Speaker #1
Yes, absolutely. Well, Camille, this has been a fantastic conversation. And I am excited to to start thinking and dreaming a little bit more. And being in your membership group. So I wanted to ask you, how can people work with you or learn more about you? And I know, like I just said, you started a new membership. So tell us a little bit about that.

Speaker #0
Sure. You can always find out more about us on our website, myaspirement.com. And also our new membership is My Aspirement Collective. Again, a monthly topic-driven, low-cost. easy nothing too hard to do we’re going to take one of these topics a month to explore it and and and again participate um as much as or as little as you can with your time we’ll record some of the things we’ll grab some experts provide some resources per topic etc that’s what the month’s going to look like and so again maybe we’ll put the link in the show notes or something like that definitely my environment collected but you can also find this my environment it. on all the social channels and we’ve got information about the collective there too.

Speaker #1
Okay, great. I will definitely put those links in the show notes and I know people are going to be interested and I think a membership sounds great so women can gather together.

Speaker #0
You know they’re busy so like again I’m just trying to create a forum where people can find us and engage without it being too much of a time commitment or but women owe this to themselves and their future.

Speaker #1
Absolutely. Couldn’t agree more. Thank you so much for coming on today.

Speaker #0
Thank you for the opportunity, Heather. Always good to talk to you.

Speaker #1
And as always, if you loved this podcast, please consider gifting me with a five-star review. It is so helpful for me to get the word out on real eating, our real bodies, and real food stories. Thank you so much and have a great week. Bye for now.